Another spring for Jython?
I have yet spent times on Jython on this clod.
At the beginning of the year was announced an acceleration of the development (due to the PSF of Brian Zimmer).
After the initial spring the run has slow down...AGAIN!
In spite of the Road Map of Zimmer, that predicted a 2.4 version of jython (i.e compatible with CPython 2.4), the only real achieved progress has been done the passage from 2.2alpha0 to 2.2alpha1. Something, but not enough.
This is certain not due to a Zimmer's or Pedroni's guilt (that meanwhile is passed to PyPy).
Perhaps it is because, from the abandonment of Jim Hugunin, there has not been a true historical leader of the project that have coordinated and proposed innovations as is in CPython with Guido Van Rossum.
Jython is an exceptional project with enormous potentiality (only who has tried it knows what I mean).
When some big company will decide to bet on this jewel? Do you think that with some economic stimulus Jython would have stayed frozen in the 2.1 for more than 4 years?
Now the new coordinator of the project is Frank Wierzbicki.
Frank has just created a weblog with which he will adjourn on the progress an newness.
We hope that this blog will have longer life that Zimmer's website. (excellent until it was online).
He also has (finally) proposed a new version of the jython official site that should be housed by the python foundation and, therefore, it should have a support deigns of a project of such importance.
It seems that Jython is again to a turning point. We hope there again is not a postponement.
Good job Frank, I hopes that you will not be left alone
Ps: Jython 2.1 are perfectly usable and productive however.
Pps: 1What do you see at the top of this post is the new Jython's logo . Really cool! ;-)
posted by domenico at 12:42 AM
2 Comments:
This is interesting, I see a lot of people using a weblog to be able to speed up a project, by making people more interested in the thing (the -Ofun that autrijus tang is always talking about). I wonder if that really works.
For what relates to jython..
I think that it won't reach the momentum it had years ago again, because:
- CPython become faster and now it is really "fast enough" for many tasks.
- There is a boatload of libraries for python that were lacking when jython was started, so there is less need to use a java bridge.
- At the same time, javanese now have a lots of dynamic languages for their platform (jruby, beanshell, groovy, hecl, pnuts etc) so that they don't need jython that badly.
So I think that for jython to be kept in sync with CPython for the future what it needs is PyPy. Make JVM Just Another Backend(TM) and it will be always up to date.
This is interesting, I see a lot of people using a weblog to be able to speed up a project, by making people more interested in the thing
Using a blog could be useful but without something to say... ;-)
In jython specific case a blog is a real necessity due the nonexistent possibility to update the official website (if you try, you will notice also that the official wiki is not available....)
This is very frustrating for someone that take a look to have news.
- CPython become faster and now it is really "fast enough" for many tasks.
Also Jython is "faster enough" for a java application ;-)
- There is a boatload of libraries for python that were lacking when jython was started, so there is less need to use a java bridge.
Yes, but many people don't use jython to integrate java library in python, but viceversa!
Many python lib and utility speed up also java development
javanese now have a lots of dynamic languages for their platform [...] so that they don't need jython that badly.
Also this is true, but having tried some of it, jython it remains the most productive however. The version 2.1 are perfectly usable as I have told the post.
Besides also before jython there were many other languages (over 200 at the moment)for the JVM
So I think that for jython to be kept in sync with CPython for the future what it needs is PyPy.
I don't know PyPy in depth and I cannot comment but, in every case, what can allow a future for Jython is well welcomed in this slice of sky :-)
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